What would it be like if Sigmund Freud were alive in the age of podcasts? Would he have one? Well, his great-granddaughter the fashion designer Bella Freud does, and she’s going to stop by to tell us all about how it’s become a must-listen. Then, Jackie Kennedy Onassis was one of the most sought-after women in the world in her day. Not just by men who wanted to court her, but by one man in particular—a paparazzo named Ron Galella, who was obsessed with photographing her and would go to any length to do it. Karen M. Dunak has the revealing story of what happened when Jackie, eager to protect her privacy, took the photographer to court in 1972. And finally, everyone talks about “quiet luxury.” Well, our own Linda Wells shares her thoughts on why quiet restaurants are the true luxury these days. Listen by clicking Play below. And be sure to subscribe at Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss an episode.

Episode 223: Bella Freud on “Fashion Neurosis.” Plus: When Jackie O Fought Back

Also: Linda Wells on the new “quiet luxury”; and more