Why is Gen Z obsessed with the drug of the moment … kratom? This week, Ashley and Mike are joined by Air Mail Associate Editor Jensen Davis, who reveals how a centuries-old herb from Asia has become very big in New York and L.A. And speaking of ingesting, Dana Brown stops by to regale us with his night at Noma restaurant, when it came to New York City this past week. He ate everything. Including the ants! All this and more make this week’s episode one you won’t want to miss. Listen by clicking Play below. But be sure to subscribe at Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss an episode.

Episode 88: Why Is Gen Z Getting High on Kratom?

Plus: Dana Brown devours Noma restaurant—ants included!