Camille Miceli is Pucci’s creative director of some four years standing. Actually, “standing” is far too boringly static a term for her. Miceli thinks, moves, and laughs—especially laughs—at a hyper-speed pace. Take our meeting, for instance. Ostensibly it’s to chat about Pucci, where she has rejuvenated the near 80-year-old brand renowned for its jet-setting ways by understanding it’s really about fun, gorgeousness, and not overthinking it, emphasizing its strong artisanal roots (her desire for prints drawn by hand, say) as much as a groovy and sometimes delightfully goofy Gen Z vibe. And we’re also meant to be discussing the places she loves to escape to most, and where to stay and what to see when you’re there.

Except, Miceli just has to quickly deal with one small matter before we can start: namely, signing the paperwork to buy a new holiday home in Ibiza. Which she does while we’re on Zoom. “I sold my place in the southwest of France last year,” she says, “and I was looking for somewhere else, and Ibiza was a good compromise for me and for my son, and it’s somewhere where I can go during the winter. Never,” she emphasizes with a throaty chuckle, “in August.” Her new finca-style home also has a Japanese tree house; it’s near a charming village in the northern part of the island, and last but likely not least it is “away from all the craziness.”